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        	<title>Christine on Organic brambles</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>My berries almost died this summer, I was so busy and it was so hot.   They're in the hoophouse, covered with plastic.  After 6 years the 4-year plastic is STILL just fine, but the shade cloth inside broke after a year -- so disappointing!</p>
<p>I'll take the plastic off in spring as it gets way too hot in summer and the hoophouse is full of trees and shrubs.  And gophers ...   It'll be moved down hill and the existing area will be a fenced garden and the entire area will be gopher fenced.  Just a little behind schedule!</p>
<p>So hopefully next year I'll get tons of berries and I want to take at least a hundred cuttings in winter.</p>
<p><a href="https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/viewhtml.php?id=15" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/viewhtml.php?id=15</a></p>
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        	<title>Christine on Drought-quenching bacteria</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting article:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.nau.edu/drought-resistant-bacteria/#comment-2135576" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://news.nau.edu/drought-re" rel="nofollow">http://news.nau.edu/drought-re</a>.....nt-2135576</a></p>
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... Led by NAU doctoral student Rachel Rubin, the researchers conducted a meta-analysis, reviewing more than 50 scientific studies from throughout the world. When plants in the studies were provided with growth-promoting rhizobacteria (PGPR), a diverse group of organisms known for their root and rhizosphere colonizing ability, vegetable and grain yields increased 20 to 45 percent. The benefits of rhizobacteria were even greater in plants grown in a drought compared to their well-watered counterparts. ...</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:28:36 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>Cover Crop Secrets</strong></p>
<p>A very interesting interview by Graeme Sait with Jeff Rasawehr, the founder of Center Seeds, a Michigan-based enterprise specialising in the supply of cover crop seed.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.nutri-tech.com.au/cover-crop-secrets-1/" target="_blank"><a href="http://blog.nutri-tech.com.au/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.nutri-tech.com.au/</a>.....secrets-1/</a></p>
<p>Couldn't find part two.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2016 23:36:38 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on High Brix -- Nutrient Dense</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Here's a nice summary about BRIX by Graeme Sait:</p>
<p class="post-title"><strong><a href="http://blog.nutri-tech.com.au/the-beauty-of-brix/" target="_blank">The Beauty of Brix – Ten Things You Need To Know</a></strong></p>
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<p class="post-title">2.  It looks like you are looking at a fuel gauge and in a way you are. A low brix reading is akin to a plant fresh out of fuel. The line that divides the two visible hemispheres can also offer an indication of <strong>calcium levels</strong> in the plant. If the dividing line is clean and sharp, this indicates a calcium deficiency. It can actually be a sign of generalised mineral deficiency, but as calcium is "the trucker of all minerals", this mineral is the chief suspect. The goal of all good growers is to fuzz up that sharp line. A fuzzy dividing line is an indication of mineral density and desirable calcium levels in the plant.</p>
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<p class="post-title">Since there's no line at all in a digital refractometer, it seems that the analog meters should be preferred.</p>
<p class="post-title">Does anyone have SCIENTIFIC references to prove it?</p>
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<p class="post-title"><strong>Low brix levels</strong> are often linked to <strong>high nitrate levels</strong> in the plant. It is impossible to achieve nutrient density in the presence of excessive nitrate nitrogen. This form of N is only ever uptaken with water, so the higher the nitrate levels the greater the dilution factor. A watery, mineral deficient plant is a calling card for insects and disease, so this could also be called a stress meter. In effect, your likelihood of anxiety is all locked within this ten second measurement. The higher your brix levels, the greater your farming fun.</p>
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<p>I'm pretty sure there's a relation between high brix and farming or gardening fun.</p>
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Good brix levels can confer enhanced <strong>protection against frost</strong>. Kelp is often used for this purpose, as it is a primary brix-building tool. Studies in Tasmania, several years ago, revealed that kelp applications before frost events could provide up to 3°C of frost protection. Of course, the most dramatic frost protection strategy involves removing the root cause of the problem. Frost crystals are created by a group of organisms called ice-nucleating bacteria. If you can remove these creatures from the leaf surface, you can minimise frost damage. Thankfully, there is a solution. <a href="http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/products/microbial-products/sudo-shield" target="_blank"><strong>Nutri-Life Sudo-Shield™</strong></a> from NTS features massive numbers of a leaf-dwelling organism called <em>Pseudomonas fluorescens</em>. When applied to the leaf, this organism will improve the leaf population of non-ice-nucleating bacteria and subsequently decrease the likelihood of frost damage; these organisms can continue that invaluable service for around 4 weeks. We have had tremendous feedback from growers around the world who have escaped the frost damage that has decimated their neighbours, following a foliar application of <a href="http://www.nutri-tech.com.au/products/microbial-products/sudo-shield" target="_blank"><strong>Nutri-Life Sudo-Shield™</strong></a>.</p>
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<p>Kelp has been our most used foliar spray ingredient and I've heard that it helps with frost as well as heat protection.</p>
<p>But I never heard of <em>Pseudomonas fluorescens</em>.  This summer we got the BioRed nitrogen fixing microbes and it looks like we ought to have a cocktail of microbes.  </p>
<p>We can get a hard freeze as early as late October and that just totally ruins our tomato harvest.  This year we've barely had any tomatoes yet because we were so late and then it got HOT.  The plants are looking good, but not setting fruit.  So we're hoping for a nice fall crop as we finally start to see little tomatoes. </p>
<p>Usually everything freezes by Thanksgiving at the latest.  One year it got down to 9 F and we found the freeze plugs from our truck on the ground.  Nothing helps when it gets that cold.  But in some years the lows stay in the high 20s until January and most of the nights it doesn't freeze at all and the days are warm and sunny.</p>
<p>Just did some reading on Pseudomonas fluorescens and it looks like they don't like our heat.  I'll start a new topic on it.  So much to learn ...</p>
<p class="post-title">Anyway, a great read on BRIX by Graeme Sait at <strong><a href="http://blog.nutri-tech.com.au/the-beauty-of-brix/" target="_blank">The Beauty of Brix – Ten Things You Need To Know.</a></strong></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:11:40 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
        	<link>https://highdesertfood.org/forum/gardening-techniques/cover-crops/#p74</link>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Mercola interviews <span id="ctl00_bcr_FormattedBody">USDA-NRCS</span> scientist <span id="ctl00_bcr_FormattedBody">Ray Archuleta</span> on cover crops:</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/08/30/soil-health-regenerative-agriculture.aspx?" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/08/30/soil-health-regenerative-agriculture.aspx" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://articles.mercola.com/si" rel="nofollow">http://articles.mercola.com/si</a>.....lture.aspx</a>?</p>
<p>The article contains the link to <strong><em>Managing Cover Crops Profitably :</em></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sare.org/Learning-Center/Books/Managing-Cover-Crops-Profitably-3rd-Edition" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.sare.org/Learning-C" rel="nofollow">http://www.sare.org/Learning-C</a>.....rd-Edition</a></p>
<p>I just got the FREE download, 248 pages.  Dr. Mercola rocks!</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2015 17:49:01 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on Gypsum for calcareous soil</title>
        	<link>https://highdesertfood.org/forum/gardening-techniques/gypsum-for-calcareous-soil/#p72</link>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p><strong>The fizz test:</strong> </p>
<p>Squirt some vinegar on a small sample of your native dirt.  If you hear it sizzling and it bubbles, you have calcareous soil.</p>
<p>One of our local gardeners had poor results until he amended with gypsum after he got a soil test since we have so much excess calcium in the soil.</p>
<p>Our native dirt is extremely compacted (we now need to use a PICK to loosen up dirt piles that were excavated in spring before we can shovel it).</p>
<p>A comprehensive publication about gypsum by the University of Arizona Extension:</p>
<p><strong><em>Using Gypsum and Other Calcium Amendments in Southwestern Soils</em>, Dr. James Walworth, Revised 08/12</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://extension.arizona.edu/pubs/az1413.pdf" target="_blank"><a href="http://extension.arizona.edu/p" rel="nofollow">http://extension.arizona.edu/p</a>.....az1413.pdf</a></p>
<p>A few excerpts: </p>
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...Gypsum is a good choice for Ca addition because it is inexpensive, non-toxic, and safe to handle, and it is relatively<br />
 soluble. We are interested both in solubility (how much of the salt will dissolve in the soil water) and the rate of dissolution<br />
 (how fast the salt dissolves in water). Mined gypsum is well crystallized, having formed over millions of years. Waste<br />
 gypsum, on the other hand, is formed rapidly during industrial processes, and is less crystallized. Although they have the same<br />
 chemical formula, the waste gypsum materials dissolve more rapidly than mined gypsum. Sometimes powdered gypsum<br />
 is prilled in order to reduce dust and to improve handling properties, and this slows its rate of dissolution.</p>
<p>A study that compared dissolution rates of gypsum sources found that flue gas gypsum dissolved 3.6 times faster than mined gypsum, whereas phosphogypsum dissolved 2.2 times faster than mined gypsum. The rate of dissolution is particularly important for treatment of soil crusting, which is caused by dispersion of clay particles at the soil surface. In this situation, rapid dissolution is critical to maintain a high level of dissolved Ca2+ in the surface soil as raindrops or irrigation water leach cations from the uppermost layer of soil. However, for general treatment of soil structure, the rate of dissolution is less important than the overall solubility. ...</p>
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<p>I've been buying my gypsum at <strong>Star Nursery</strong>, the only place in Kingman where I found <strong>OMRI listed mined gypsum</strong>.  It's a nice slightly pinkish very fine powder and costs about $6.50 for I think 40lbs.  </p>
<p>Star has another brand that costs over $30 because it is fast acting.  <strong>I checked the label and it had identical ingredients.</strong>  I asked what the difference is, but they had no clue.  A couple weeks later I got more gypsum and inquired again with the same guy and he still had no clue.  And that's just how it is these days -- cheap help couldn't care less about what they sell.  Very disappointing for a "local" Nevada nursery.  You might as well be at Walmart or at the Home Depot.</p>
<p>I've read about people putting drywall scraps in their gardens, but that's not for me.  See <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_drywall" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_drywall</a> about toxic drywall.  Most of the drywall in our house came from Lowe's in 2006.  We've been using adobe since 2008, a much better choice for many reasons.</p>
<p><strong>So, I'm certainly not paying 5 times more for what might be flu gas gypsum or whatever industrial waste!</strong></p>
<p>As an organic grower, I wouldn't use it if it was free.</p>
<p>Currently there is the cheaper "Arizona's Best" gypsum at the Home Depot, but it's not OMRI listed and I've heard reports of people finding pieces of drywall in it.   No thanks!</p>
<p>The university publication contains a nice chart that tells you how much gypsum to apply per acre and per 1000 sqft.</p>
<p>I'm going to contact Dr. Walworth to see if he has recommendations for a soil testing lab specializing in our calcareous soil (our pH is 8.2 to 8.7).</p>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>ATTRA has a great free to download publication on cover crops:</p>
<p><a href="https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/summaries/summary.php?pub=486" target="_blank">https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/summaries/summary.php?pub=486</a></p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:40:22 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Nice pics and explanations:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb1167287.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Inter" rel="nofollow">http://www.nrcs.usda.gov/Inter</a>.....167287.pdf</a></p>
<p>Not specific to the SW, but I'll update with the Kingman NRCS cover crop suggestions.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2015 17:29:00 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on USDA - NRCS</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Frank Egan is a highly respected member of Steve Solomon's Yahoo Soil Health Group and he recently became USDA certified organic and posted this article <strong><a href="http://www.eurekaspringsindependent.com/single_story.asp?StoryID=10056" target="_blank">Grant money equips organic farmer</a> </strong>:</p>
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... Then, at a meeting of the Arkansas Association of Grape Growers last November, Arkansas Secretary of Agriculture Butch Calhoun was giving a presentation on the state of agriculture in Arkansas. After his presentation, Egan approached Calhoun and asked how to improve the chances of getting a grant.</p>
<p>“He said ‘give me your card and I’ll get back to you,’” Egan said. “He wrote the top seven folks in the NRCS in Little Rock and shortly thereafter, John Lee, the head NRCS agronomist for Arkansas, drove up for a visit. In a nutshell, Lee said to forget direct granting from the NRSC. You need to have your farm Certified USDA Organic and here is why – last year the NRCS received $250,000 to administer grants in a special program exclusively to organic farmers. At the end of the year, they had to send half the money back to D.C. because there were not enough applicants for the program.”</p>
<p>In April 2015, Egan’s farm was inspected for USDA Organic Certification. He applied for six grants and all were approved. The cost of the well, pump and 600 feet of underground irrigation totaled $17,647. In addition, the farm qualified for a $4,200 grant to have a Ph.D. agronomist travel from Kansas City, Mo., do a 50-page survey and recommendation for the farm. For 2016 through 2018, the farm received a grant of $3,786 to file two annual reports, one for nutrient management,one for integrated pest management. ...</p>
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<p>There is an NRCS office in Kingman:</p>
<p><a href="http://offices.sc.egov.usda.gov/locator/app?service=action/1/ServiceCenterSummary/4/agencyToOfficeLink" target="_blank"><a href="http://offices.sc.egov.usda.go" rel="nofollow">http://offices.sc.egov.usda.go</a>.....OfficeLink</a></p>
<p>I think our place is too small to be considered a farm, but I'll check this out.</p>
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        	<title>Christine on Downy mildew</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I've read conflicting info on how to treat downy mildew.  Some recommend copper fungicides, other say it doesn't work.  Either way, I wouldn't want to use copper anyway as it can be rather toxic if too much is applied and I don't have copper.</p>
<p>Unlike powdery mildew, downy mildew requires moisture and humidity and relatively cool temperatures.   While it's been so hot and dry the for several days, we also had a few days of very light rain every few hours, so that could have caused problems.</p>
<p>Excellent pics of infected leaves as well as the scientific explanation at <em>Managing Downy Mildew in Organic and Conventional Vine Crops</em>:</p>
<p><a href="http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/3000/pdf/3127.pdf" target="_blank"><a href="http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fa" rel="nofollow">http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fa</a>.....f/3127.pdf</a></p>
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For organic growers, there are several alternative fungicides labeled for cucurbit downy mildew, including copper-based fungicides. Growers should be cautious in applying copper, as it can be phytotoxic to cucurbits, and high levels in soil are toxic to earthworms and other beneficial organisms. Phytotoxicity is most common during cool, moist conditions, which are also the most favorable for downy mildew. A list of the other alternative fungicides can be found at the National Sustainable Agriculture Information Services “Downy Mildew in Cucurbits” web page at <a href="http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/downymildew.html#ref4" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><a href="http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pu" rel="nofollow">http://attra.ncat.org/attra-pu</a>......html#ref4</a>. Make sure to check with OMRI <a href="http://www.omri.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.omri.org</a> and your organic certifier to determine if the suggested products are currently considered acceptable for organic production.</p>
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<p>In our dry desert climate we really shouldn't have to worry about it.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://homeguides.sfgate.com/natural-remedy-downy-mildew-plants-44863.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://homeguides.sfgate.com/n" rel="nofollow">http://homeguides.sfgate.com/n</a>.....44863.html</a></p>
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<strong>Biological Control</strong></p>
<p>Biological control of downy mildew includes the use of a microbial pesticide, such as Bacillus subtilis. Available for home garden use, this control is created from strains of bacteria. The product stops the growth of fungal infections and keeps active fungi from attaching themselves to host plants, according to the Michigan State University Organic Farming Exchange. The bacteria is found in soil and is valued for its nontoxic status toward humans, animals and plants.</p>
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<p><strong>Several sites recommended baking soda. Wiki on baking soda:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate</a></p>
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<strong><span id="As_a_biopesticide" class="mw-headline">As a biopesticide</span></strong></p>
<p>Sodium bicarbonate can be an effective way of controlling fungus growth,<sup class="reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate#cite_note-56" target="_blank">[54]</a></sup> and in the United States is registered by the <a class="mw-redirect" title="Environmental Protection Agency" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Protection_Agency" target="_blank">Environmental Protection Agency</a> as a <a title="Biopesticide" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biopesticide" target="_blank">biopesticide</a>.<sup class="reference"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_bicarbonate#cite_note-57" target="_blank">[55]</a></sup></p>
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<p><strong>Testimonials and recipes:</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2135051/baking-soda-a-reprise" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2135051/baking-soda-a-reprise" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/2135051/baking-soda-a-reprise</a> </p>
<p><strong>There's a bad link to ATTRA and I decided to look there and I found a rather comprehensive pdf:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/summaries/summary.php?pub=122" target="_blank">https://attra.ncat.org/attra-pub/summaries/summary.php?pub=122</a></p>
<p>Some warnings about neem oil and they also mention peroxide.  Concise and comprehensive, wish they'd updated it since publication in 2003.</p>
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<p>Since many posts mention the addition of oil and soap, I might just add a little coconut oil and some yucca extract (as <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surfactant" target="_blank">surfactant</a> instead of soap.)</p>
<p>Also, for <strong>powdery mildew</strong> diluted milk and especially raw milk is often recommended.</p>
<div class="section">I haven't spent a lot of time researching downy mildew and if you have more info, please share!</div>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Many gardeners LOVE Miracle Grow because it really works instantly. But unless you want to constantly pay for expensive fertilizers to grow food with fewer nutrients while damaging your and possibly your neighbors' soil, it's time for the switch. </p>
<p><strong>Interestingly, home gardeners use 3 times as much fertilizers than farmers -- more is NOT better!</strong></p>
<p>Joel C. Reid, Mesa Verde Resources:</p>
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<p>We know that nitrogen inputs are important in crop and turf production, however we suggest that nitrogen inputs be managed much, much more carefully and recommend the use of humates to restore soil carbon in its most active form. Applications of humates will not only increase soil carbon levels, but will improve water retention, drainage, soil tilth and nutrient retention. Humates also provide a healthy substrate for beneficial soil microbes.</p>
<p>Research has shown that soils with less than 3% organic matter can lose 15% to 40% of N in a growing season. Anchoring nitrogen in the soil is part of the important job of soil carbon/humus, as N binds readily with carbon-based acids such as humic and fulvic. This reduces the need for heavy, expensive inputs of N fertilizers. Moreover, the stimulation of symbiotic and free-living nitrogen-fixing bacteria by humic substances adds to availability of N from the atmosphere, supplying, in many cases, up to 75% of a crop’s needs.</p>
<p>By applying humates to soils where synthetic N and other fertilizers are used, we can restore soil carbon levels, balance the ratio of carbon to nitrogen and break the vicious cycle we have created in most conventional production soils. Humates are a direct input of soil organic matter, providing the most important aspect of a healthy, productive soil.</p>
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<p>I just purchased humic acid for the first time this spring and I still have a lot to learn about fertilizing and amending our desert soils for vegetables and fruit trees.  Recently we got nitrogen fixing microbes, mycorrhizae and minerals.  And of course I've done a ton of reading -- my head is spinning.   So much fascinating info, I'll have to elaborate in new posts.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2015 20:03:24 -0700</pubDate>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I'm trying to find out what the upload limit is, waiting for support on that.  Thanks for posting the text file, an excerpt:</p>
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Bunchgrass with germination in 5-10 days.  One of the most widely used grasses and is adaptable to a wide variety of soils and climate conditions. It is leafy and fine stemmed.</p>
<p>20% Smooth Brome, Lincoln Sod Forming grass with germination in 10-14 days .  Smooth brome is resistant to drought and extremes in temperature. Lincoln smooth brome is the most widely used of the cultivated brome grasses.</p>
<p>15% Paiute Orchardgrass Bunchgrass with germination in 14-21 days. One of the earliest species to exhibit growth in the spring, making tremendous forage potential during cool conditions. Performs well on different textured soils. Is a great forage and hay producer.</p>
<p>15% Hycrest Crested Wheatgrass Bunchgrass with germination in 14-21 days.  A hybrid cross between Standard and Desert wheatgrass, resulting in a plant with excellent seedling vigor that establishes quickly. It is taller and has higher forage yield potential than its parents.</p>
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<p>I'd like to see what the grasses look like, have to look them up sometime.</p>
<p>I wish we knew WHEN it will rain so that we could get seeds out then.  Like you, we got some rain too, but this last week was another scorcher. </p>
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Spent all morning getting plastic over the bed where the vegs have to stay warm at night we are getting below 60 now</p>
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<p>We're still in the mid to high 70s at night.  There's no way that I'd cover veggies unless I could keep them from freezing (tomatoes and peppers) or it's for pest control and I leave the cover on for a while.  Especially with plastic it would cause certain death for the veggies as the morning sun would have fried them by the time I get out there.  </p>
<p>I've covered pots with shade cloth or agribon, covered the pot with the lettuce seedlings yesterday again.  They're not exactly looking great.  Thought it was a good idea to plant them when it rained and was cool a week ago. Oh well ... good thing I have more seedlings inside and tons of seed.</p>
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I can't work when it's too hot I'm too old (60 btw) &#38; still have too much Alaskan blood.</p>
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<p>I'm 57 and I blame my German blood 🙂  Can't wait for afternoon temps to drop below 100 F again, low 90s would be real nice.  When I moved here I had no plans for ever spending a summer here.   Just glad it's dry heat!</p>
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        	<title>Marilyn on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>Well I will try the upload again, the pdf was too big. Think that txt did it.</p>
<p>We got more rain yesterday 1/2". Spent all morning getting plastic over the bed where the vegs have to stay warm at night we are getting below 60 now. Everything is really late since July was cooler with all the rain. Too much rain for the garden but great for the pastures! The best is to get a bit of rain spread out. The only thing doing really good are the sunflowers most are at least 8 ft tall. Hopefully they will bloom.</p>
<p>I can't work when it's too hot I'm too old (60 btw) &#38; still have too much Alaskan blood.</p>
<p>I'll have to post a pic of the weed, the raised bed mostly have bindweed but it's not too bad to pull up.</p>
<p>Seems around here I need to lay eyes on most everything everyday, if I blow it off I always regret it!! I'm always saying something about learning a lesson then try to remember to write it in my notebook.</p>
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        	<title>Christine on Cover Crops</title>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I finally didn't have to approve your post, so I think it's working properly with only the first post by a new member being moderated. That was hard!</p>
<p>It sounds like you tried to post an attachment, but it doesn't show up.  Did you actually hit the "<strong>upload" button</strong> after selecting the file?  I have to add an FAQ here.</p>
<p>I can imagine how busy you are.  For us the problem is that it's so hot during the day, not only do I not feel like working hard (screening dirt etc.), but it's too hot to plant, transplant, water, etc.   Two hours at night just isn't enough time.   Just finished transplanting a few trees and palms into bigger pots (had a flashlight), no moonlight right now.  I'm determined to set up a new water tank with irrigation lines tomorrow during the day, we'll see how that goes.</p>
<p><strong>Weeds:</strong> We've always hand weeded or used the hula hoe, but this year had so many weeds due to the nice spring rains.  A customer had already paid a lot for weeding and we were less than half done, so it was time to get a weed eater.  Promptly broke the customer's car's rear window with a rock!  The weed eater went back to Lowe's and from now on we'll pull the weeds.   Just got done with the customer's weeding (free of charge to pay for the window.) Fortunately weeds really aren't a big problem in most years.</p>
<p>We also got a lot of weeds in the hoophouse because we didn't pay attention and let some weeds on the sides go to seed ...  Learned a lesson there!</p>
<p>If you want to identify a weed, please post a picture or two.  </p>
<p>I think the main reason we haven't had much luck with cover crops in previous years is that we're so tired of watering by fall.  But now we have irrigation and timers, so we'll try it again.  Still don't know what to get though ...</p>
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<p>Wow!  We rarely get that much all year!   I'm happy we got some rain every month this year.</p>
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        	        	<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2015 04:08:21 -0700</pubDate>
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        	        	<description><![CDATA[<p>I think we'll order a mix from peaceful valley for the garden &#38; a variety for the area I want to improve. We bought for our pastures a DryLand Pasture mix its done pretty well with the rain we had in July (5 3/4 inches ) but pretty dry now. I attached it so hope it comes through. I think the key for the pasture was the rain, we only broadcast &#38; then run a harrow. I've read about frost seeding as the ground opens up with the frost, we no longer have use of the harrow so we have drug a heavy wire cattle panel behind the tractor.</p>
<p>So much to do I get overwhelmed. Lately I've just tried to stay ahead of the weeds. I don't know what this weed we have is but the stem gets 1/2 in. around unless you keep it down. I only have a battery weed eater now but I think we'll buy a lawn mower for next year. Been doing paths so I can at least see snakes (one thing I really miss about Kodiak AK no snakes!)</p>
<p>Everything is an experimental crap shoot!!</p>
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